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Global warming - hoax or fact? Debate rages on in search of truth
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             EAGLE RIVER -- If you Google “global warming” and “climate change” you’ll get more than 100 million combined hits. And just about every hit yields an opinion. But what are the facts?

            That’s what science is supposed to find out, and there’s no consensus on climate change among the experts. But who says science is about consensus? If you could, ask Galileo, Newton and Einstein, to name a few of science’s luminaries who dissented from popular views and paved new paths toward understanding the mysteries of the universe.

            Two learned men came to Eagle River over the weekend to give presentations in an event billed as the “Northwoods Climate Change Debate,” sponsored by the Northwoods Patriots, an area group whose motto is “Standing up for Faith, Family, Country.” A couple hundred people turned out at the Northland Pines High School field house in Eagle River on Saturday, Jan. 30 to take part.

            Astrophysicist Dr. Willie Soon of Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Mass., and climatologist Dr. David Legates of the University of Delaware comprised the one-sided panel, representing the skeptical view of global warming, while John McCaughn, a retired chaplain and long-time Northwoods resident, played moderator and devil’s advocate.

            MANY INVITED, ONLY TWO CAME

            Event organizer Kim Simac spent weeks organizing the debate and was clearly frustrated by her failed attempts to get some balance into the discussion.

            “I invited scientists from all over the country — even some from around the world — to a fair and balanced event,” she said. “I was amazed at the lack of response to the many invitations that went out, but more interesting were the insulting, mocking, sarcastic replies I received from scientists who seem to share a similar belief that a debate is ridiculous on such a settled science.”

            On this bitterly cold day in late January, McCaughn, who graduated from Eagle River High School and the University of Wisconsin-Superior, noted wryly that he had woken up at 5:30 a.m. and the temperature outside his Conover home was 27 below. “They didn’t have anyone to represent the global warming side,” said McCaughn, who had refereed previous forums.

            Deflecting criticism that they tour the country on behalf of industry giants such as ExxonMobil and others that have special interests to protect, Drs. Legates and Soon were quick to defend their integrity.

            “I maintain my objectivity and speak around the country to anyone,” said Dr. Legates, when asked whether he was funded by any particular group. “I don’t charge honorariums. If they pay my way I’ll be glad to speak.  I haven’t received any money from oil and gas interests.”

            Dr. Soon, also in response to the same question, said his scientific findings would be the same whether he gave them to Greenpeace or ExxonMobil, which had paid him from time to time to conduct research along with other corporations.

            “My condition is very simple; that there is no condition,” he said. “No amount of money could corrupt me. If CO2 is as bad as they say it is, I would be far ahead of Al Gore and say we must take action. But much of what is being said is based on false arguments. Science is not about he said, she said, but all about the data and evidence. I keep an open mind always.”

            HUMAN ACTIVITY IMPACTS ENVIRONMENT

            Dr. Legates said there is no question that humans have an impact on the environment, especially when it comes to land disturbances and changing the surface of the landscape. Such activity, for example, affects the possibility of flooding because vast expanses of grasslands and other porous soils have been replaced by parking lots and other impervious surfaces, causing water runoff.

            “Urbanization is definitely a factor in environmental changes, but the climate effects are almost negligible,” he said.

            Chuck Boyd, a retired physicist who lives in the Northwoods, decried the efforts by vast segments of “the administration, Congress, media, industrial complex, and academia” to paint a distorted picture of the global warming debate. “All combined, they are willing to sacrifice the economic future of our country in the name of what I call a monumental anthropogenic global warming hoax.”

            Spurred by former Vice President Al Gore’s 2006 documentary film “An Inconvenient Truth,” which asserted global warming is largely man-made and warned of dire consequences for the planet unless steps are taken to stem carbon emissions, proponents of this argument say evidence is indisputable. In his narration, Gore said climate change “is really not a political issue, so much as a moral one.” Many climate researchers found few faults with Gore’s thesis but some labeled it “junk science” and it caused one U.S. Republican Senator to call it “the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people.” Others said that while Gore was right about many of his claims, he was went too far with his predictions of doom.

            Just before Saturday's discussion, a series of short films, pro and con, were shown, one of which was produced by National Geographic propounding the warming theory. McCaughn, as moderator and taking the Gore side, summed up the  global warming position by quoting several dire outcomes from the movie and asked the panelists to respond.

            Drs. Soon and Legates, both of whom have PhD’s after their names and a long list of published papers and honors in their resumes, have not bought into the increasingly popular premise that the earth is getting hotter because of human activity such as the burning of fossil fuels and deforestration. Instead, they postulate that climate change is inevitable and that global warming is mainly due to natural causes such as solar activity and other phenomena.

            GORE’S FILM: FACT OR FICTION?

            Asked about Gore’s movie, Dr. Legates called it “very much of a staged show with little substance.”

            Dr. Soon likewise poked fun at the former Veep by interrupting his slide slow Saturday by pretending to take a cell phone call from Gore and finding out that he was delayed in his travel plans by a snowstorm in Nashville, Tennessee (Gore’s home state). The audience got a big laugh out of that.

            Dr. Soon concedes that scientific data has never been and is not now perfect. “The difference, though, is there is a tendency to make some sort of claim that is so exaggerated and so disproportionate that it amounts to an alarmist approach. The theme is all about scare. Michael Crichton wrote about this in his book, ‘State of Fear.’ It’s a big tragedy.”

            Quoting Albert Einstein, who said, “No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong,” Dr. Soon said conventional thinking about gases such as carbon dioxide is often wrong. “CO2 is not an air pollutant. It is food for plants and marine life,” he said. Atmospheric CO2 levels are controlled by temperature and other biological/chemical variables and not the other way around, he added.

            Gore’s claims that polar ice melting is another proof of global warming brings this response from Dr. Soon: “Who says that the ice was not melting before?” Weather records before around 1850, when the last ice age is said to have ended, are unreliable, calling into question the accuracy of old data, he added.

             Global warming proponents took a hit when it was revealed that last November, someone hacked into computers at a climate research unit located at the University of East Anglia in Norwich, England, and released thousands of emails that showed scientists may have distorted or withheld key data. The episode became known as "Climate Gate" in the mass media and raised a firestorm over whether some scientists were slanting some information to buttress their global warming claims while deliberately suppressing or downplaying other data that undermined their position.

            CLIMATE CHANGE IS CONSTANT

            Dr. Legates said climate change is both constant and variable in that no one day and no one year is like another and while trends are discernible for short periods of time climates are anything but stable. Looking at average temperatures, a case could be made that one year is hotter than another or cooler, but that over time, nature has a way of stabilizing herself. “From 2000 to the present, there has been no increase in global temperatures,” he said pointing to a graph supporting his remark.

            On the other side of the question, however, fears mount that an increase in global temperature will cause sea levels to rise and alter the amount and pattern of precipitation, changing green areas to subtropical deserts. Warming in the Arctic would coincide with the retreat of glaciers, permafrost and sea ice, and other threats include species extinctions and reductions in crop yields.

            All conjecture at best, say Drs. Soon and Legates, the latter producing another slide that showed a U.S. Weather Bureau report stating: “The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot. Reports all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic Zone. Expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.” The dire report was made in 1922.

            Dr. Soon says any global warming is more the result of solar cycle variations that cause temperature fluctuations rather than man-made CO2 emissions, which represent a tiny fraction of the earth’s atmosphere made up of 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen, with only 0.038 percent carbon dioxide and the rest small amounts of other gases.

            SCIENTISTS DON’T SEE EYE TO EYE

            As the author of many papers on solar and stellar behavior, Dr. Soon and co-author Sallie Baliunas shook things up with a review paper in the journal Climate Research that concluded “the 20th century is probably not the warmest nor a uniquely extreme climatic period of the last millennium.”

            In another controversial area, Dr. Soon and others in an article disputed claims that polar bear survival was not so much a result of global warming, but possibly because of more human-bear interaction. Dr. Soon also maintains that the ozone layer that surrounds the earth, which protects the planet from the sun’s potentially damaging ultraviolet rays, even while depleted, can fully replenish itself in a matter of 150 days rather than hundreds or thousands of years as some have contended.

            While nothing was settled during Saturday’s session, it provided much food for thought. There will always be people who are persuaded that man is chiefly responsible for warming the planet and people who remain skeptical of the idea, and ask for concrete proof. Perhaps the late Bishop Fulton J. Sheen had insight into the matter when he wrote, “The scientist does not tell nature its laws; nature tells the scientist.”

             

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Added: February 05, 2010. 12:54 PM CST
Human's are the new factor
We have had cycles of global climate change (GCC)for millions of years. Its roots are complex and interactive. For example, variations in solar output, the shape of earths orbit, the tilt of the earth's axis, global dimming due to atmospheric aerosols and particulates (from volcanism, meteorites), abundance of green house gases (methane, co2, water vapor), etc. The rank importance of these factors has probably changed at each prior episode of GCC. Enter human's explosive growth and impact in the past 10 thousand yrs (ca. 7 billion people). Humans are changing the atmospheric balance of GHGs due to vast losses of CO2 sinks (trees etc), and enormous outputs of CO2, etc from burning fossil fuels. For example CO2 levels ranged between 180-280 ppm for past 1M yrs, but now is 390ppm. Other GHG's are also increasing. Does human influence on this matter? Wise people ought to urge the precautionary principle. We cannot simply or quickly alter our course should we all finally agree that we have done serious damage to the biosphere's resilency.
bill mattson
Added: February 03, 2010. 04:50 PM CST
Feb 3 4:10PM
You are correct about "biased debate," but you are calling the wrong scientists biased. Have you missed the leaked e-mails, the Himalayan glacier melting negated, the rain forest data based on an article only (i.e. not science)? The biase is by those scientists who have destroyed raw data so no peer review can be performed. Credability of all global warming (that is what they used to say until it became a negative) data has been comprimised and the public sees through it. Unfortunately, our governor does not and WI may find itself driving much more business out of state (as well as many citizens).
Anonymous
Added: February 03, 2010. 04:49 PM CST
Biased scientists?
Read the article again. The Exxon thing was brought up and responded to. As for the "unbiased scientists" that didn't show, they were invited and didn't feel the need to support their arguments. Wouldn't want to stoop so low as to travel to Eagle River in the dead of winter, no doubt.
Anonymous
Added: February 03, 2010. 04:24 PM CST
Good article, poor headline
The debate doesn't really rage on, except among biased scientists. That's why none of the unbiased scientists bothered to show up.
Anonymous
Added: February 03, 2010. 04:10 PM CST
Biased debate
So, we have two scientist who tour on behalf of the oil companies debating no one?



Then one of them gets a laugh about global warmning by bringing up snow in Tennessee. Educated people know that the more descriptive and proper term is "climate change." Climate change does not mean that the whole world will get uniformly warmer.



Are there any reputable scientists (not shills for the oil industry) who doubt the greenhouse effect? The unbiased scientists have told us: If we continue to emit carbon dioxide, heat will be trapped in the atmosphere. Even, assuming for the sake of argument that the greenhouse gases have not yet started to change the climate, wouldn't it make sense to try to slow the changes we make to the atmosphere before that happens? Not if you are a mouthpiece for Exxon.
Anonymous
Added: February 02, 2010. 09:44 AM CST
Well done!
Very comprehensive and well done article. I was there and you've done a stellar job of reporting.
Anonymous
Added: February 01, 2010. 12:29 PM CST
Great Reporting
Very interesting read. Thank you for attending. It worries me that people are so easily led to adopt a conclusion. When presented with a "we are all going to die" issue we jump in lock stock and barrel, add to that a politically backed agenda, and the walls go up. It's left, its right it's war. If Americans do not figure out that what drives those behind the Global Warming has nothing to do with saving the world, we will be doomed! Do intelligent people really think changing light bulbs and working to regulate certain omissions in the name of tax dollars will save the world? If by 2050 we will be seeing a vastly altered planet Earth, or by 2030 unbelievable changes in water levels and additional life shattering occurrences
why do we have 5 to 10 to 15 or 20 years to implement new regulations that may ease the certain coming disaster? What effects will our efforts accomplish if more then half of the rest of the world does not buy into this scheme? If the sky is falling very soon, don't you think we all should pay attention now? WHy have over 32000 Scientists worldwide (over 10000 PHD;s) sign a document stating they do not believe the data that has been presented on Global Earming. Just ignore them and buy into the hysteria side? Can we not think for ourselves anymore?
NEWSFLASH"It's not happening. The news is reporting on the corruption daily and it is good news. We are not going to die in a few years. They were wrong. Why are we not celebrating?


Kim Simac
Added: January 31, 2010. 10:48 PM CST
Other debates
We had a debate on the same subject in Brisbane, Australia last Friday. Over 500 people turned up at $130 per head for the lunch debate and many people were turned away. Lord Moncton and Prof. Ian Plimer spoke for the sceptics and Prof. Barry Brook and a local environmental journalist spoke for the warmers.

It was an interesting exercise as the warmers had little to say except to continually refer to computer predictions and (in the case of the journalist) "play the man" and not the subject.

It's fairly obvious that, ideology aside, the warmers don't have much of an argument.
David Horton
Added: January 31, 2010. 08:32 PM CST
You sound awfully sure; could you be wrong?
If you're not young and you don't have children, maybe you don't care about the future; but if you are young, or you have children (that you like)?
Recommended, for the science: skepticalscience.com

Anonymous
Added: January 31, 2010. 08:22 PM CST
Appreciate Thorough Reporting!
I was not able to attend and am grateful for your thorough reporting! This is such an important issue and one that gets dismissed often by any who believe Al Gore's premise. Shocking to me is how so few teachers and students throughout our area take any interest in hearing from experts on this topic!
Anonymous